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Series 1 · Episode 12 · 7 October 2026 34 mins

You Are Not the Main Story

The spotlight effect, a plague scare and Japan's older prisoners

Do something embarrassing and it feels as if everyone saw. Mostly, they didn't. The Concept of the Week is the spotlight effect, and as Hilary tells her teenagers, you are not the main story of anyone else's movie.

A note before you listen

This episode discusses the death of a laboratory worker from a suspected infection, a near mugging at knifepoint, and older people who feel a burden to their families, including in the context of assisted dying.

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The Concept of the Week is the spotlight effect. Do something embarrassing and it feels as if everyone is watching, when most people barely noticed. Peter puts it down to being self focused, which we need to be to get through the day, and Hilary has a line she uses on her teenagers: you are not the main story of anyone else's movie. Her husband once got stung by a bee in a bank queue and made no sound at all. Peter once came to a halt at a crossroads in a small French town, could not get his feet out of his cycling pedals, and fell over to a ripple of applause from two cafes.

Before that, a progress report on Black Bag, Luke Kennard's Booker shortlisted novel. Hilary listened to the audiobook in the car with one of her teenagers, forgot that it gets a bit raunchy in places, and turned into a 1950s housewife. Peter is about as far through and enjoying it.

The first headline: a laboratory technician at the anti-plague research institute in Irkutsk has died of a suspected pneumonic plague infection, and about 200 of her contacts have been under observation. Peter is not a microbiologist, and says so. If he were in Andy Burnham's chair he would want a briefing twice a day until somebody knew what was going on. The reassurance is that plague is bacterial, so it can be treated with antibiotics, and Hilary has read that it does not pass easily from person to person. Then the bigger question: could we lock down again? Peter thinks the lockdown was horrible and far better than the alternative. Hilary thinks the decisions came too late and in the wrong order. They agree on one thing: follow the advice of people who know what they are talking about.

The Met Office has asked everyone to calm down about an El Niño winter from hell, and the British carry on talking about the weather anyway. Peter's explanation: we are animals living in an environment, and the weather is the one thing two strangers in a cafe know they share. Then crime. There is less of it when the weather is bad, and Peter's theory is practical. Hanging around an alley with a knife on a warm summer night is a pleasant enough job; in November it is not. Hilary remembers the one time she was nearly mugged, on a sunny day in Washington. On the way out of the weather: how often Christmas is really white, the eleven days Britain lost in 1752, and the leap second that may have to be taken away rather than added.

The final headline is Japan, where more than 100,000 people are now over 100 and some older people are reported to be committing small crimes so that they are sent to prison, where they are fed and looked after. Hilary went round care homes for her dad and was appalled; Peter went round them doing research and vowed to avoid them. He finds the story very sad, and wants to know whether it is a trend or an anecdote: ask the chief sociologist for the numbers before you act. It leads him to a wider worry about how a civilised society looks after its old, and to people who feel they are a burden on their family. Hilary gives a shout out to anyone who did not have good parents to look after.

The Triple T is the antidote to the spotlight effect. Next time you do something embarrassing, ask what you would do if it were someone else. You would glance over, maybe have a chuckle, and get on with your day. That is probably what everyone else is doing.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

The spotlight effect. When you do something embarrassing, it feels as if a spotlight is on you and everyone is looking. Peter's point is that it is probably not true: people are self focused, which they need to be to get through the day, so they barely notice. In the original study, by Thomas Gilovich, Victoria Medvec and Kenneth Savitsky in 2000, students sent into a room in a Barry Manilow T-shirt guessed about half the people there had noticed. About a quarter had.

Read the full explainer on the spotlight effect

The Triple T

What would you do if it were someone else? Next time you do something embarrassing, picture it happening to someone else. You would glance over, maybe have a chuckle, and get on with your day. That is probably what everyone else is doing.

Mentioned in this episode
  • The spotlight effect was named by Thomas Gilovich, Victoria Medvec and Kenneth Savitsky in 2000. Students sent into a room wearing a Barry Manilow T-shirt guessed that about half the people there would notice it. About a quarter did. The original paper
  • Black Bag by Luke Kennard is on the 2026 Booker Prize shortlist. The winner is announced on 9 November
  • The Irkutsk case: the technician worked at the Irkutsk Anti-Plague Research Institute of Siberia and the Far East and died on the night of 1 to 2 October. Russian health authorities gave the cause as pneumonia of unknown origin; regional officials and several outlets reported suspected pneumonic plague. 197 contacts were traced, and by 5 October most had been released. The Moscow Times
  • Plague, what it is and how it is treated: the World Health Organization fact sheet
  • The Met Office's own review of the El Niño winter headlines, 5 October: Met Office blog
  • The weather talk survey reported by BBC Future in 2015 found 94 per cent of Britons had talked about the weather in the previous six hours, and 38 per cent in the previous hour
  • The Met Office counts a white Christmas if one snowflake is seen falling anywhere in the UK on Christmas Day. On that measure, 38 of the last 54 Christmases were white. Snow lying widely on the ground is much rarer: four times since 1960. Met Office
  • The calendar change: under the Calendar (New Style) Act 1750, Wednesday 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday 14 September
  • Japan counted 107,677 people aged 100 or over on 1 September 2026, the first time above 100,000. Nippon.com
  • Human Rights Watch's work on Japan's criminal justice system: hostage justice

If you need to talk

If anything in this episode has affected you, please contact your doctor, local support services, or your emergency services if in crisis. In the UK, Samaritans are on 116 123, day and night, free from any phone, and Age UK's Advice Line is on 0800 678 1602 for older people and their families.

Series 1 · Episode 11 · 29 September 2026 41 mins

They Can Do Nothing Wrong

The halo effect, Ed Miliband and Burnham on beer at the football

Once you think well of someone, they can do nothing wrong. The Concept of the Week is the halo effect, and it runs from Ed Miliband's street interview with Feroz Khan to Peter liking Andy Burnham very much and still disagreeing with him about beer at the football.

A note before you listen

This episode discusses Andy Carroll's account of being sexually assaulted, the abuse of boys in youth football, and the link between big sporting events and domestic abuse.

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The Concept of the Week is the halo effect. Once you think well of someone, their mistakes get explained away and their strengths get all the credit. Peter calls it a heuristic, and a sloppy way of thinking that everyone falls into from time to time. His rule: very good people can do bad things, and when they do, call them out. It turns up all week, starting with Ed Miliband's street interview with the TikTok creator Feroz Khan in New York. Peter is sure it was not impromptu. Hilary is less sure it was scripted.

Before the news, a progress report on Black Bag, Luke Kennard's Booker shortlisted novel. Hilary is listening to the author read it and is now hooked; Peter has been defeated by the audiobook app. She likes it because it is not full of visual imagery, which brings her to aphantasia. Hilary cannot see pictures in her mind's eye, and only found out a few years ago that other people really can. Peter can turn a Rubik's cube over in his head but does not see it either, and his own belief, which he is careful to call a belief, is that nobody really does. Hilary would like to settle it in a brain scanner.

The first headline: couples who divorced in 2025 had been married for a median of 13 years, the longest since records began in 1963. Is it the cost of splitting up, or is marriage guidance working? Peter's answer is less romantic. People marry later and live together first, and older, wiser couples who have tested the arrangement stay married for longer. He thinks divorce being easier also makes it less urgent. Hilary would rather believe couples are getting the help they need, and Peter offers her the choice from Life of Pi: pick the story you prefer.

Andy Carroll has written in his autobiography about being sexually assaulted in his own home by a celebrity friend, who was later jailed. Hilary remembers how long it took boys abused in youth football to find the words for what had happened to them, and talks about bringing up sons who would have those words if they ever needed them. Peter's view is that people who speak out should be praised, celebrated and protected, and that once we understand what has happened to someone, their distress stops looking like something wrong inside them.

The final headline: Prime Minister Andy Burnham says the 1985 ban on drinking in view of the pitch at men's football is discrimination, when fans can drink at cricket, at rugby, and now at the Women's Super League. Hilary calls it fanism and thinks four decades is long enough to try something different. Peter is not having it. The alcohol ban, all-seater grounds and policing are why football changed, he says, so why undo them? What evidence is there that alcohol has a different effect on the brain than it did forty years ago? Hilary raises the research linking big matches to domestic abuse. And Peter's verdict is the halo effect in reverse: he really likes Andy Burnham, and he does not think this is a good idea.

Peter's advice for the world borrows Ed Miliband's: do what you believe to be right, once you have weighed it up properly. It is what he used to say to clients who wanted him to decide for them. Then the Triple T: toss a coin. Set up the choice, heads one way and tails the other, and while it is in the air, ask yourself which way you want it to land. At that moment, you know. His third tip, take tips with a pinch of salt, comes free.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

The halo effect. If somebody has done something good, or you like them, or you have a lot of positive regard for them in one way, they can do nothing wrong. Peter calls it a heuristic, a sloppy way of thinking that everyone falls into from time to time, and his rule for it is simple and hard to keep: very, very bad people can do good things, and very, very good people can do bad things, and when a good person does a bad thing, call them out.

Read the full explainer on the halo effect

The Triple T

Toss a coin. Set up the choice, heads one way and tails the other, and while the coin is in the air ask yourself which way you want it to land. At that moment, you know. There is research behind it: Mariela Jaffé and colleagues found in 2019 that a coin flip sharpens how people feel about their options, and Steven Levitt found that people whose coin told them to make a change were happier six months later. Peter admits it sits awkwardly next to his other advice, do what you believe to be right after careful thought, and throws in a third tip for free: take tips with a pinch of salt.

Mentioned in this episode
  • Ed Miliband's interview with Feroz Khan was filmed in New York during the UN General Assembly and went up on Khan's account, the Foreign Office's and the UK mission to the UN's at the same time. A government source has since said it was planned. His advice for the world, as LBC reported it: "Do what you think is right. Stick to your beliefs." LBC's report, with the video
  • The halo effect was named by the psychologist Edward Thorndike in 1920, after he found that officers who rated a soldier highly on one quality tended to rate him highly on all of them. In 1977 Richard Nisbett and Timothy Wilson showed that people swayed by it do not know they have been
  • Black Bag by Luke Kennard is on the 2026 Booker Prize shortlist. The winner is announced on 9 November
  • Aphantasia, having no mind's eye, was named in 2015 by the neurologist Adam Zeman and colleagues. Hyperphantasia is the other end of the scale. To check your own imagery, try the Aphantasia Network's visual imagery questionnaire, and the apple illusion Hilary mentions, once you have finished listening
  • The ONS divorce figures were published on 23 September. Couples who divorced in England and Wales in 2025 had been married for a median of 13.0 years, the longest since records began in 1963 and up from a low of 8.9 years in 1985. ONS divorce statistics
  • Life of Pi is Yann Martel's novel. The stage version Peter loved won the 2022 Olivier Award for Best New Play, and the seven puppeteers who played the tiger shared the award for Best Actor in a Supporting Role
  • Andy Carroll's autobiography, Owning It, was published by Pan Macmillan on 24 September
  • Andy Burnham spoke to reporters in New York on 23 September. The ban comes from the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985 and covers the top five tiers of men's football in England. Women's Super League fans can drink in view of the pitch this season after two trial seasons
  • The research on football and domestic abuse includes Trendl, Stewart and Mullett (2021), which found alcohol related domestic abuse reports to West Midlands Police rose 47 per cent after an England win
  • There is research behind the coin toss. Mariela Jaffé and colleagues found in 2019 that a coin flip sharpens how people feel about their options, and Steven Levitt found that people whose coin told them to make a change were happier six months later

If you have been affected

If you have been affected by any of the issues discussed in this episode, please contact your doctor, local support services, or your emergency services if in crisis. In the UK, SurvivorsUK supports men and non-binary people who have been sexually abused, the 24/7 Rape and Sexual Abuse Support Line, run by Rape Crisis England and Wales, is on 0808 500 2222 for anyone aged 16 or over, and the National Domestic Abuse Helpline is on 0808 2000 247, day and night.

Series 1 · Episode 10 · 23 September 2026 47 mins

Make the First Move

The bystander effect, AI-mageddon and Burnham meets Trump

If the fire alarm goes off, every student in the room will wait to see what you do. The Concept of the Week is the bystander effect, and the week supplied AI-mageddon, Burnham meeting Trump and a new right to bereavement leave to try it on.

A note before you listen

Peter briefly describes being physically assaulted. The episode also discusses bereavement, pregnancy loss, and AI used to select military targets.

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The Concept of the Week is the bystander effect: the more people watching something go wrong, the less likely any one of them is to step in. Peter traces it from the Kitty Genovese story through the staged subway experiments to the advice he was given as a new lecturer. If the fire alarm goes off, every student in the room will wait to see what you do, so leave the bloody room. Hilary has a Brighton story about a homeless woman punched in the face and a crowd that did not look. The finding that follows is the useful one: people are waiting for a cue, and if somebody steps forward, the chances are the rest will follow.

Then AI-mageddon. Trump told the UN that artificial intelligence should be called super intelligence and that the United States will not accept a global system to regulate it. Hilary listened to Rory Stewart and Yuval Noah Harari on the Aztecs and found herself psychologically inert. Peter's answer is about regulation, tigers and fences: if you were rich enough to keep a menagerie, you would spend some of the money on the enclosure. He has been reading about Lavender, the Israeli military's AI targeting system, and the operators who described their role as pressing yes. Hilary brings the 2023 mammography study in which radiologists went along with a wrong AI suggestion most of the time, and Peter matches it with a mental health tribunal chair who told him the panel had never once disagreed with the psychiatrist. No AI required.

Peter's way through the doom is Descartes by way of a video game. If it turned out you were a character in somebody else's game, what should you do? Play it to the best of your ability. Terrible situations do not change the job, which is to take what you know and make the best possible decision. He has a plan for Russian paratroopers landing near Manchester Airport, and he would rather people other than Donald Trump decided how AI is regulated.

Andy Burnham met Trump for the first time at the UN General Assembly. Peter's advice for negotiating with him: when he says something outrageous, say yes, then bury it in the long grass, because he will not remember and he is mostly interested in how he looks on television. Hilary rates Mark Carney as the first leader to get the measure of the man, and both admire the American TV pool for pulling coverage after CNN was thrown out. Which prompts the question Peter answers with unusual honesty: do you always stand up to a bully? No. He was once thumped in the street in Leeds, and his rule now is to read the situation and pick, and sometimes that means running away.

Finally, the new right to two weeks' bereavement leave, unpaid, for the loss of a partner, parent, adult child or sibling, and for pregnancy loss before 24 weeks, from April 2027. Hilary is dismayed it needed a law at all. Peter puts it alongside AI and migration: as a species we are plenty rich enough, and the problem is only ever how it is shared out.

The Triple T is make the first move. On the tube, in a bar, in the office: somebody has to go first, and it might as well be you. Peter's dating algorithm, aim high and work down, gets a swift rebuttal from Hilary about who actually punches up.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

The bystander effect. The more people watching something go wrong, the less likely any one of them is to step in, not because nobody cares but because everyone is reading everyone else for the cue, and nobody is giving it. Peter traces it from the Kitty Genovese story, with the caveat that the 38 witnesses who did nothing has since been shown to be badly overstated, through the staged subway experiments of the 1960s, to the advice he was given as a new lecturer: if the fire alarm goes off, all the students will wait to see what you do, so leave the room. The useful half of the finding is the reverse. Because people are waiting for a cue, the first person who steps forward is usually followed.

Read the full explainer on the bystander effect

The Triple T

Make the first move. On the tube, in the office, in any room where everyone is looking at everyone else, somebody has to go first, and it might as well be you. You may be the only one who moves, and Peter is honest that the stranger you step in for might not thank you for it, but you will have done the right thing and more often than not the rest come with you. He extends it to dating with an algorithm he attributes loosely to game theory, aim high and work down because a no leaves you where you started, which Hilary points out sounds like a very male attitude.

Mentioned in this episode
  • The Booker Prize 2026 shortlist was announced on 22 September. Black Bag by Luke Kennard is on it. Mary Beard chairs the judges, and Jarvis Cocker is on the panel. The winner is announced on 9 November
  • The novel riffs on a real experiment: in 1967 Charles Goetzinger had a student attend his Basic Persuasion class at Oregon State University inside a black bag, to see how the other students reacted. Hilary is right that it was late sixties and that it relates to Robert Zajonc's mere exposure effect
  • Peter's cockroaches are real too, though they belong to a different Zajonc finding. Zajonc, Heingartner and Herman (1969) found cockroaches ran a simple runway faster with an audience. A 2020 attempt to replicate it did not find the effect
  • The Kitty Genovese case is from 1964, and the story of 38 witnesses who did nothing has since been shown to be badly overstated, which is Peter's own caveat. The staged subway experiments are Piliavin, Rodin and Piliavin (1969), in New York
  • Trump told the UN General Assembly on 22 September that AI should be called super intelligence and that the United States will not accept a global system to regulate it. Bigly intelligence is Hilary's
  • The enfeeblement argument Hilary makes is set out in Could AI really kill all humans? Most scenarios require physical access, making AI armageddon unlikely, by Alessandro Di Nuovo and Samuele Vinanzi of Sheffield Hallam University, The Conversation, 21 September 2026. Their case is that bioweapon and power station scenarios need hands in a lab, and the real risk is people who stop thinking for themselves
  • Rory Stewart's interview with Yuval Noah Harari went out on The Rest Is Politics on 18 September, with the second part for TRIP Plus members
  • Lavender was reported by +972 Magazine and Local Call in April 2024: an AI system that marked around 37,000 Palestinians as suspected militants, with intelligence officers spending about 20 seconds on each target and one describing their role as a rubber stamp
  • The mammography study is Dratsch and colleagues, Radiology, May 2023. 27 radiologists read 50 mammograms with suggestions they were told came from AI. When the suggestion was wrong, the least experienced readers' accuracy fell from about 80 per cent to under 20 per cent, and even those with 15 or more years' experience fell from 82 per cent to 45 per cent. Hilary says radiographers; they were radiologists
  • Andy Burnham and Donald Trump met for the first time in New York on 22 September. Burnham argued for international principles and standards on AI with the UK as a bridge between America, Europe and China. Trump called the Chagos Islands agreement a terrible deal, and Burnham raised the Falklands to restate British sovereignty. Hilary's suggestion that one was traded for the other is her reading, not something either leader has said
  • Mark Carney addressed the European Parliament on 17 September and said the Canada and EU relationship is not meant to be a rival to the United States with better manners
  • The White House removed CNN from the television pool on 20 September. The pool suspended its coverage of Trump the next day, and CNN, Politico and MS NOW have sued
  • Trump's ten billion dollar lawsuit against the BBC over the Panorama edit is still going, though in July he dropped the part aimed at BBC Studios
  • The bereavement leave announcement was made on 22 September: up to two weeks' unpaid leave for the loss of a spouse, partner, parent, adult child or sibling, including step, half, foster and kinship relationships, and for pregnancy loss before 24 weeks, for the woman and her partner. It starts in April 2027
  • Strictly Come Dancing's launch show was 19 September. Craig Revel Horwood is still on the judges' desk, and the Josh is Josh Widdicombe, one of the new hosts

If you have been affected

If you have been affected by any of the issues discussed in this episode, please contact your doctor, local support services, or your emergency services if in crisis. In the UK, Cruse Bereavement Support has a free helpline, The Miscarriage Association supports anyone affected by pregnancy loss, and Victim Support is there for anyone affected by assault.

Series 1 · Episode 9 · 15 September 2026 46 mins

I Want To Live In The Real World

Reform's £72m, assisted dying and Miliband's settlement ban

Two crypto billionaires hand Reform UK 72 million pounds in two days and say they want nothing back. Peter does not believe them, and the reason why turns into the Concept of the Week.

A note before you listen

The middle of this episode is about assisted dying, terminal illness, palliative care and bereavement. Both hosts speak about people close to them.

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The Concept of the Week is motivated reasoning: judging an argument by whether it gets you the answer you already wanted. Peter's version is unsparing. His well motivated donation is a bid to improve the life of the nation, hers is shameless self promotion. His climate pledge is aspirational, hers is a downright lie. People do it all the time, and the week's three headlines are three chances to catch yourself at it.

Two crypto billionaires have given Reform UK 72 million pounds in two days. Ben Delo gave 36 million on the Friday, and Christopher Harborne matched it to the pound on the Saturday, saying in the Telegraph that Delo had warned him it was coming and his competitive instinct did the rest. Both say they expect nothing back. Peter does not believe them, and Hilary pushes him on whether people can be rehabilitated. He says yes, absolutely, and that giving large sums to a political party is not how it is done.

That turns into the best passage in the episode, on what competitiveness is actually for. Compete with your friends over pot plants and you all end up with better pot plants. Decide that you need to beat them and the whole thing becomes a zero sum game, where your win requires my loss. Peter's argument is that a good deal of right wing politics runs on the second kind, and that people who describe themselves as wealth creators are usually moving money rather than making it.

Then the assisted dying bill, defeated in the Commons on Friday by sixteen votes, 286 to 270. Peter supports the principle and says so plainly, including for himself. He also thinks the Royal College of Psychiatrists has it about right, and that palliative care being less than perfect is a reason to be careful. The part that troubles him most is the one nobody legislates for: elderly people who say they do not want to be a burden to their children, and how much that would weigh on a decision that is supposed to be freely made.

Finally, the settlement measures. Ed Miliband banned imports from illegal West Bank settlements while talking about being a proud Jew, and the Chief Rabbi called it a dark day for British Jews. Peter's point is that the line the government drew is the right one and it should hold it: this is not a boycott of Israel, it is a ban on goods from illegally occupied land. He has a story from outside a Marks and Spencer fifteen years ago about what happens when that line gets blurred.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

Motivated reasoning. You judge an argument by whether it delivers the conclusion you already wanted, which is why it feels like thinking rather than like wanting. Peter's version is a list of pairs, and the list is the argument: his generous political donation is a bid to improve the life of the nation, hers is shameless self promotion. His climate pledge is aspirational, hers is a downright lie. This product is worth the money because I like to pay for quality, that one is a waste of money. Nothing in those pairs is a claim about evidence. They are the same act described twice, and the description follows from who did it. He ties it to cognitive dissonance: you look at things through eyes which are biased, in order to avoid contradicting yourself.

Read the full explainer on motivated reasoning

The Triple T

Argue it from the other side. Take the position you disagree with and make the case for it properly, the way its best advocate would. Peter's framing is the courtroom: if you are the defence, argue it as the prosecution, and the other way round. Then ask the real question, which is what would I say if I were motivated for a different outcome. He runs the week's own headlines through it out loud, including the money from the unions, and he is clear that this is not a wellbeing tip. It will not make you feel better. It is good for your brain. Hilary's mother had the shorter version: walk in someone else's shoes before you judge them.

Mentioned in this episode
  • Ben Delo gave Reform UK 36 million pounds on 11 September and Christopher Harborne matched it on 12 September, the largest single donation to a British political party on record
  • A correction. Peter several times calls Ben Delo a convicted fraudster. He was not convicted of fraud. He pleaded guilty in February 2022 to a single US Bank Secrecy Act violation, failing to establish an anti money laundering programme at BitMEX, received 30 months' probation, and was pardoned by Donald Trump in March 2025. Hilary has it right in the very next answer
  • Delo signed the Giving Pledge in 2019, committing at least half his wealth in his lifetime, which is Hilary's point about philanthropy
  • The assisted dying bill was defeated on Friday 11 September by 286 votes to 270. Hilary says 269 and flags it as approximate at the time
  • Oregon's Death with Dignity Act took effect in 1997. Through 2025, 5,520 people have received a prescription and 3,691 have died from taking the medication, both figures as Hilary gives them. The remaining third did not all decide against it: many died of their illness first
  • Canada has postponed eligibility where mental illness is the sole underlying condition to 2027, rather than abandoning it as Hilary suggests
  • Jersey's law received Royal Assent on 9 July 2026 and lets the person choose between taking the substance themselves and having a practitioner administer it. There is an 18 month implementation period, so nobody has had an assisted death there yet
  • The Royal College of Psychiatrists, whose concerns about assessment time Peter largely shares
  • Jacob Weisberg's Profiles in Cowardice, published 15 September 2026. Hilary calls him a psychologist. He is a journalist and media executive, formerly editor of Slate and co-founder of Pushkin Industries
  • The settlement measures were announced on 8 September 2026 by Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband, with France and Canada following: an import ban on settlement goods, sanctions on those facilitating settlement expansion, and a ban on settlement advertising in the UK
  • Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis called it a dark day for British Jews. Miliband publicly rejected the claim that British Jews had been put in danger by the measures
  • The royal deathbed story is George V, 20 January 1936. Lord Dawson timed the morphine so the announcement would reach the morning edition of The Times rather than the evening papers. It only became public when his notes were published in 1986. Peter hedges between George V and George VI, and says Sunday papers
  • Andy Burnham's father Roy died on 14 September, aged 86, after Alzheimer's
  • Manchester United 0 Manchester City 1 at Old Trafford, Sunday 13 September, the 199th Manchester derby. Haaland scored on 60 minutes after a VAR check of nearly three minutes, and he is Norwegian
  • Peter's wheat figure comes with his own caveat that he may have the numbers wrong, and he is right to give it. UK yields per hectare have risen roughly three to fourfold in a century, not fourteen or fifteen

If you have been affected

If you have been affected by any of the issues discussed in this episode, please contact your doctor, local support services, or your emergency services if in crisis. If you are in the UK, Marie Curie offers support on terminal illness and bereavement, and Cruse Bereavement Support has a free helpline.

Series 1 · Episode 8 · 8 September 2026 51 mins

Repeat A Lie Often Enough

The AfD landslide, violence in A&E, and AI's invented facts

Repeat a lie often enough, Peter says, and it stops being something you have heard and becomes something you know. The news then supplies three demonstrations.

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The Concept of the Week is the illusory truth effect. Repeat a lie often enough and it stops being something you have heard and becomes something you know. The news then obliges with three demonstrations.

The AfD has won Saxony-Anhalt with 44 per cent of the vote and 39 of the 83 seats, three short of a majority, on a turnout of 76 per cent. They more than doubled their share in five years and the CDU lost more than half of its own. Hilary and Peter go at what was sold to get there: nostalgia for the East German regime, a manifesto line about how children should be taught, and a traditional family message Peter reads as code for undermining everybody else's. He is blunt about where this has gone before.

Which takes them to Francis Galton, who coined the word eugenics, walked around Britain ticking off women he judged attractive, and invented statistical tools we still use every day. And to the paper in Stephen Jay Gould's book where a man packed shot into the skulls of black people and white people and shook them until the numbers came out the way he wanted.

Then the second headline. 96 per cent of emergency department staff have faced violence or aggression at work and only 4 per cent always feel safe. Hilary reads the timing of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine's report as a deliberate play to set the agenda before a BBC investigation landed. Peter asks who benefits from an underfunded health service and is cynical about the answer. He also takes apart Hilary's use of the word simply, and later pulls her up for saying that gangs are taking over the country, which they are not, and which is about as close as this programme gets to a fight.

Third, John Healey's first big speech as Chancellor, and what a Chancellor can actually change. Peter's answer involves six thousand civil servants and some very good computers.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

The illusory truth effect. Something you have heard before is easier for your brain to process than something new, and that ease gets misread as truth. So a claim does not have to be argued well, or evidenced at all. It only has to be repeated. It works on people who know better, it works on claims you have already been told are false, and it is the reason a politician who has been corrected in public will go out the next day and say exactly the same thing again. Peter's point is that this is not a flaw in the gullible. It is how the machinery works in all of us, which is why noticing it is the only defence.

The Triple T

Go and look for the evidence. Peter arrives with the receipts on this one. He asked ChatGPT about the history of Manchester and it told him about a Victorian mercury fountain in St Peter's Square, lit by gas lamps. It sounded entirely plausible. He asked for a source, and it admitted it had made the whole thing up. The tip is not to stop using the things. It is to ask where a claim comes from, every time, and to notice how rarely that question gets asked of anything.

Mentioned in this episode
  • The AfD won Saxony-Anhalt on 6 September with 44.1 per cent and 39 of 83 seats, three short of the 42 needed. Turnout was 76 per cent, up from 60 in 2021: the full result
  • The Royal College of Emergency Medicine surveyed over 2,000 emergency department staff and published on 4 September. 96 per cent had experienced violence or aggression, 75 per cent see it weekly or daily, two thirds said incidents were discriminatory, and only 41 per cent of those who reported one said their trust took meaningful action
  • Stephen Jay Gould, The Mismeasure of Man, 1981. Peter could not remember the title on air. The skull measuring is Samuel George Morton's
  • Gould's reading of Morton has itself been challenged, which rather proves the episode's point about evidence: The Mismeasure of Science, PLOS Biology, 2011
  • The lab coat study Hilary asks about is Adam and Galinsky, Enclothed Cognition, 2012. Worth knowing that it has repeatedly failed to replicate: the British Psychological Society's write up
  • John Healey became Chancellor on 20 July. He read Social and Political Science at Cambridge and was a full time disability rights campaigner from 1984. The judicial review announcement came in his growth speech on 7 September
  • The Brexit hit to productivity Peter refers to is the Office for Budget Responsibility's standing assumption of 4 per cent over the long run: their Brexit analysis
  • The protests Hilary mentions were at Dover and Portsmouth over the weekend of 5 to 7 September
  • Clearly not really: Peter calls him Edward Galton. He means Francis Galton. Everything else he says about the man, including the beauty map, is correct
Series 1 · Episode 7 · 3 September 2026 64 mins

I Just Handed In My Lanyard

Starmer's exit, gravitas, and the war on Black Friday

Peter retired without a leaving do, which turns out to be the key to a week of news about people stepping out of one role and into another.

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Peter has retired. Not from being a psychologist, but from the university, and the Concept of the Week turns out to be the name for precisely that. Role exit. The original study says you should mark the moment with some sort of ceremony. Peter handed in his lanyard and went. No leaving do, no exit interview, no speech, and no regrets about any of it.

Which is this week's story twice over. Keir Starmer stood down as an MP on 1 September, an hour before the new Prime Minister's first big speech. Vengeance, or a man who has simply changed his mind? Peter argues that a u-turn and an open mind look identical from the outside, and that if you want leaders with no emotions and no second thoughts, you need a different species running the country.

Then Hilary, whose actual job is teaching people how to hold a room, takes apart the new Prime Minister against Kemi Badenoch at the despatch box and asks Peter the question he says has been held against him his entire career. What is gravitas, and can you get it if you have not got it? His answer is the clearest working definition you will hear, and the practical version that follows is the most useful thing in the episode.

There is a detour through Thatcher on the way, and a warning from the eighties about council houses and water that arrived almost exactly on schedule. And then France declares war on the words Black Friday. Not the sales, the words. Peter, a behavioural psychologist, points out that banning a word is close to the least effective thing you could possibly do, and that Wales worked out the answer years ago.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

Role exit. Psychologists, as Peter puts it, like to have names for things that are bleedingly obvious, and this is the name for the process of stopping being what you were. Helen Rose Ebaugh set it out in 1988 after interviewing ex-nuns, ex-doctors, retirees, divorcees and former convicts, and finding they were all describing the same four stages: first doubts, seeking alternatives, a turning point, and then the slow work of building the ex-role. Her advice was to mark the change rather than let it happen to you. Peter did none of that, and what he came away with instead is two different answers to the question people ask at parties.

The Triple T

Just fess up. If you have said something embarrassing, own it straight away and it clears the problem almost entirely. The example is a moment at PMQs where the Prime Minister said something rude by accident, realised it mid sentence, apologised while still saying it, and then went out afterwards and apologised publicly to the person concerned. Nobody got to spend the afternoon calling him rude, because he had already said it himself. Once you have been caught on camera, denying it is futile, and the only thing left to decide is who says it first.

Mentioned in this episode
  • Hilary's list of the two letter Scrabble words, which Peter maintains is cheating: the official Collins list, all 127 of them
  • The advice Peter is remembering about marking a role exit with a ceremony: Say Goodbye, Create a Ritual by Nancy K Schlossberg, which sets out Helen Rose Ebaugh's four stages
  • Helen Rose Fuchs Ebaugh, Becoming an Ex: The Process of Role Exit, 1988
  • Reinhart and Rogoff, Growth in a Time of Debt, 2010, and the spreadsheet error found by Thomas Herndon in 2013
  • The Toubon law of 1994, and Vendredi fou, recommended in Quebec since 2014
  • Robert Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, 1974
Series 1 · Episode 6 · 25 August 2026 50 mins

Treat 'Em Mean, Keep 'Em Scrolling

Meta on trial, named storms and the weekend at 100

The psychology that keeps a fox in your garden is the psychology on trial in Oakland, with named storms and a hundred years of the weekend in between.

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Peter opens with the Concept of the Week this time rather than saving it, and it ends up explaining almost everything else. Variable ratio reinforcement is why the fox keeps coming back to his garden, why the arcade machine keeps your pound, and why you are still scrolling. Reward a behaviour every time and it stops registering. Reward it never and it dies out. Reward it roughly one time in three, unpredictably, and it becomes very hard to shake.

Then three stories that all turn out to be about who decides what holds your attention. The Met Office is running a competition with Aardman to name a storm after Shaun the Sheep, and Peter explains why a daft name does serious work: it gets people to clear the gutters before the water comes in. He would extend the idea to heatwaves, on the condition that they are named after politicians who deny climate change. Hilary raises him the fossil fuel companies, and then the data centres.

After that, a hundred years of the two day weekend. Henry Ford introduced it in 1926, having already doubled his workers' pay, and not out of kindness. Bertrand Russell thought we should have gone considerably further, and Peter, now retired with a lathe and rather too many beehives, agrees. Being freed from work, he argues, is not the same as being left without a purpose.

And finally the courtroom. Twenty nine US states are suing Meta in Oakland, with a worst case claim of 1.4 trillion dollars against a company worth about 1.5 trillion. The case turns on the exact mechanism Peter described in the first five minutes.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

Variable ratio reinforcement. Reward a behaviour every single time and the reward stops registering. Stop rewarding it and the behaviour dies out. Reward it unpredictably, on average about one time in three, and you get the most persistent behaviour psychology has managed to produce. It is how you keep a fox coming to your garden, how a fruit machine works, and, Peter argues, how a feed is designed. The uncomfortable part is that knowing all this confers no protection whatsoever.

The Triple T

Set limits. Turn on the screen time report, look at the number honestly, and then decide the rules rather than letting the app decide them for you. Thirty minutes. Nothing after a certain hour. No phones at the dinner table. Peter is careful to say this is not advice aimed downwards: his own screen time is not great, and understanding addictive design has not made him immune to it. And limits are not only for phones. Being able to say no to people is the same muscle.

Series 1 · Episode 5 · 18 August 2026 43 mins

It's More Complicated Than the Headline

Public shaming, an eclipse and Count Binface

Public shaming and the Arday tragedy, the awe of an eclipse, and Farage versus a bin, tied together by one idea: it is always more complicated than the headline.

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This week runs from the heavy to the daft. We start with the emergency alert and the wildfire risk that prompted it, which leads Peter into the Concept of the Week and the idea that the causes of things are almost always more tangled than a headline suggests.

Then the difficult part: the death of Professor Jason Arday, the Cambridge academic who faced a sustained campaign of online abuse, and what public shaming actually does to a person. We talk proportionality, the presumption of innocence that social media has quietly erased, and why a pile-on so often says more about the people holding the torches than the person they are aimed at. There is a clear line, we think, between raising a concern properly and setting out to shame someone.

After that we lighten the mood. Peter confesses he found the partial eclipse thoroughly underwhelming, which leads into why other people chase total eclipses across the planet, the awe of the night sky, and the fact that the people who built Stonehenge were every bit as clever as we are. And we finish with Count Binface giving Nigel Farage a run for his money in Clacton, and the strange charm of a democracy that lets a man campaign against a bin.

A heads up: this episode discusses a recent death, online abuse and mental health. Please take care if that is difficult for you.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

INUS, from the philosopher J.L. Mackie, which is a formal way of saying that causes are almost always more tangled than they look. A fire needs a spark, but the spark could have been a match, a lighter or a dropped cigarette, and no single one of them is the whole story. It is a useful lens for everything from why a wildfire took hold to why the far right gains ground: there is rarely one simple cause, however much a headline wants there to be.

The Triple T

Wait a second before you respond. It sounds almost too obvious to say, but most of the harm we do, and most of the nonsense we spread, comes from reacting to a headline as though we already know the whole story. There is nearly always a backstory, a complication, a perspective you have not heard. So let investigations run their course, let the facts arrive, and above all do not send the tweet. It will almost certainly be wrong.

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If you have been affected

If you have been affected by any of the issues discussed in this episode, please contact your doctor, local support services, or your emergency services if in crisis. If you are in the UK, this NHS page signposts a range of mental health services.

Series 1 · Episode 4 · 10 August 2026 64 mins

Even James Bond Steps on a Banana Skin

Results day, disappointment and Freshers' Week

A practical guide to A-level results day and the leap to university, for anyone with a teenager in the house and for the teenagers themselves.

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This week is a practical one. We start with the teenage brain, which is not fully built until around 23, and why that means your teenager genuinely cannot wake early or yet see things from your side.

Then the days before: the conversation to have now, which is in an ideal world, what would you love to study? Banking some sleep. And quietly building a Plan B and C so a disappointing envelope has somewhere to go.

On the day, we get into loving them through it, dropping the I-told-you-so, and treating the result as information rather than a verdict, because even James Bond steps on a banana skin. And we range across whether university is still worth it, the trades AI will not touch, and how to make friends in Freshers' Week without ending up in an ambulance.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

Attribution theory, the story you tell yourself about why something went well or badly. We are all prone to a self-serving version: the good result was all me, the bad one was someone else's fault. It matters at results time because the explanation shapes what you do next. Tell yourself you aced it purely because you are cleverer than everyone, and you may coast and come unstuck later. Peter's honest version is that he did well at A-level mostly because he had nothing else to do but revise, which turns out to be a far more useful thing to believe than being a genius.

The Triple T

Do something you love. As Hilary puts it, if you do something you love you never really work a day, which is exactly the long game to keep in mind when a single set of grades feels like the whole story. The results are one stepping stone, not the destination. Keep your eye on what you actually want your life to look like, and there is almost always more than one route to it.

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Series 1 · Episode 3 · 4 August 2026 45 mins

There Is No Right Way to Grieve

Death rituals, the Bush case and farewell to Bill Oddie

Why death rituals matter, why there is no correct way to grieve, and why remembering that we are mortal can help us live better.

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We start light this week, with identity and where you are from: Peter refereeing whether someone from Wilmslow really counts as a Mancunian, and the surprisingly touchy question of what grandparents want to be called.

Then the French wildfires take us somewhere bigger: why we find it so hard to care about people who are not born yet. Peter reaches for Camus and lands somewhere useful. You cannot really picture those future generations, so do not try. Ask instead what principles you want to live by now, and make each small decision one you can be proud of. Mia Mottley, the Barbadian Prime Minister, gets a well-earned mention as one of the great communicators on climate.

The Robert Bush case, the Hull funeral director jailed for what he did to hundreds of grieving families, leads into why death rituals matter so much, why there is no correct way to grieve, and why remembering that we are mortal can help us live better. Peter tells us about the cemetery chapel project he has just joined.

We finish with a tribute to Bill Oddie, who has died at 85. That takes in his openness about depression, Peter's long argument with the idea of mental illness as a simple brain disease, and the science of laughter, which turns out to be far more about the people around us than the joke itself.

A heads up: this episode covers death, grief and mental illness. Please take care if any of that is difficult for you.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

Confirmation bias, sharpened by algorithms and chatbots that are only too happy to tell you that you were right.

The Triple T

A single question: what do I actually want here?

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Series 1 · Episode 2 · 27 July 2026 46 mins

The Adult in the Room

Ossoff vs Hegseth, Natalie Fleet and Burnham's Trump problem

Names and what they give away before you say a word, an Ossoff masterclass in staying calm, and how to stand up to a bully without making everyone else pay for it.

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This week is all about names, and how much they give away before you have said a word. Peter takes us through what a name signals about class and background, and why a gender-neutral one quietly helps women at the CV stage.

Then three headlines: Senator Jon Ossoff questioning Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, a masterclass in staying calm and letting the facts do the damage; Natalie Fleet stepping down as safeguarding minister, and what being "triggered" really means; and Andy Burnham letting Trump use UK bases to strike Iran, which turns into a conversation about standing up to a bully without making everyone else pay for it. New this week: the "clearly, not really" klaxon, for when one of us reaches for a bit too much hyperbole. Thanks to Dylan for spotting the first one.

This episode discusses sexual violence and trauma. Please take care if that is hard for you.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

Authenticity, and the trust that grows out of it. There is a line, usually put on Groucho Marx, that if you can fake sincerity you have got it made. It lands because we rely on reading other people honestly. We build trust by working out what someone is really like and then acting on it, whether that is trusting a Prime Minister to negotiate in our interest or trusting a friend to get your daughter home safely from a festival. Being yourself is how other people learn they can count on you, and as Hilary puts it, you are the best possible you and a rubbish version of anyone else.

The Triple T

When you are stuck or on the spot, ask a question. It is the move underneath the whole Ossoff interview, and it works just as well at a party as it does in a Senate hearing. If the conversation stalls or the nerves kick in, an open question hands the floor back to the other person and takes the pressure off you. And if someone puts you on the spot, you can always ask them why they are asking. One catch: it does not work in a media interview, which is exactly why Hegseth had nowhere to hide.

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Series 1 · Episode 1 · 20 July 2026 54 mins

What Number 10 Does to You

Burnham's first day, Kerr's record and the money myth

Recorded hours before a new Prime Minister takes office: a conversation about leadership, money, attention, and why hope works better than fear.

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We recorded this one at nine o'clock on a Monday morning, a few hours before Andy Burnham walked into Number 10 as the country's fifth Prime Minister in five years. So we spent most of it asking what that job actually does to a person: whether you can stay yourself once you are in it, how you build a cabinet that will argue with you rather than nod along, and why so much of the answer sits with the team and the civil service around you.

Along the way we get to Josh Kerr's mile world record and whether visualising a result really works, Claudia Winkleman admitting she was too nervous to enjoy her own chat show, FTSE 100 bosses on 130 times the average wage, and the rather uncomfortable evidence about money and happiness. We finish on hope, and why it works better than fear when you are trying to talk to people.

Concept of the Week and The Triple T

Concept of the Week

Mirror neurons. Peter is sceptical that there is one dedicated neuron sitting there copying other people, but the brain scan evidence is solid: watch someone do something and your own brain lights up in ways that echo what they are doing. It is a good part of why humans learn so well by watching, and a reminder that we are social animals whether we like it or not.

The Triple T

The 5-4-3-2-1 technique, for when you are stressed or overwhelmed. Sit still and work through your senses. Five things you can see, four you can feel, three you can hear, two you can smell, one you can taste. The point is the attention rather than the senses. We have very little conscious control over our heart rate or our breathing, but we can choose where to point our attention, and doing that on purpose settles everything else down. If you lose your place halfway through, start again at five. That is part of the exercise.

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Trailer · 16 July 2026 50 seconds

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A taste of what Experience sounds like: Hilary Jeffs and Peter Kinderman taking a headline and working out what's really driving it. Hilary's from communications, Peter's a clinical psychologist, and they don't always agree, which is the whole point.

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The halo effect: why the people we like can do no wrong

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Should football fans be allowed a beer in the stands?

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Nobody was looking at her: Hilary's Brighton story

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Why regulate AI? Because that is what you do with tigers

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Make the first move: Peter Kinderman's tip for the week

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Motivated reasoning, the everyday version

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The pot plant test for competition

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The Triple T: argue it from the other side

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The illusory truth effect, explained in 15 seconds

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He asked for a source. It said it had made it up

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Why someone who arrived after you gets seen first

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Role exit, and the ceremony nobody had

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The only reliable way to catch a liar

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The Triple T: just fess up

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Why the fox keeps coming back

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Why children cannot fight it

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Treat your weekend like a holiday

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INUS: why the cause of a fire is never just the match

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Wait for the real story. Do not send the tweet

Clip · Ep 5 · The Triple T

The people who built Stonehenge were as clever as we are

Clip · Ep 5 · History

Why teenagers cannot wake up early. It is biology, not laziness

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Life is a long game. One set of grades is not the whole story

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How to make friends in the first three days of university

Clip · Ep 4 · University

Ask why am I doing this, and make better decisions

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Why death rituals shape our culture

Clip · Ep 3 · Grief

Life's absurd: Camus says we make the point

Clip · Ep 3 · Philosophy

Future thinking: principles over individual choices

Clip · Ep 3 · Climate

Remembering we are mortal helps us live now

Clip · Ep 3 · Grief

Grandparent names, and shedding the stereotypes

Clip · Ep 3 · Identity

Billionaires chasing immortality

Clip · Ep 3 · The news

Your choices matter, one decision at a time

Clip · Ep 3 · Climate

Names reveal your secrets: gender, class and more

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Ossoff traps Hegseth with military facts

Clip · Ep 2 · The news

Ossoff's tactic: forensic questions, calm control

Clip · Ep 2 · Communication

Be yourself: authenticity is your superpower

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Stuck in a conversation? Ask this

Clip · Ep 2 · The Triple T

Trauma triggers: how your brain reacts

Clip · Ep 2 · Psychology

I lied about being the Kinder egg heir for six years

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Politics isn't fantasy football, it's reality

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Psychoanalysing the news: the podcast, explained

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New PM alert! Andy Burnham is the big story

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Can Andy Burnham be his authentic self as PM?

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Mirror neurons: how watching makes you learn and feel

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Stressed? Use this 5-4-3-2-1 grounding hack

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Income vs happiness: money can't buy joy

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27-year record shattered! Kerr's ice bath secret

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Why hope messages work despite constant threats

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